Friday, December 21, 2012

How Heroin is Made

This review of a heroin manufacturing process uses images from Afghanistan, though opium poppies grow all over the world and the process of making heroin destined for the black market is the same.  It all starts here with the harvesting of opium from the poppy.  The pods are lightly scored with a blade and the raw opium collected.  The opium is collected into balls and transferred to a makeshift "laboratory" where the morphine will then be extracted and processed into heroin.


Upon arrival at the site the opium is unpacked and placed into tubs.  It is then crushed and divided into portions for each batch.  The crushed opium was then placed into barrels and hot (not boiling) water is added.  At this point the pH is around 8.  The barrel is then stirred and any solids that float to the surface, pieces of plastic or plant matter, are removed.  Hot water with lime (Calcium Oxide, CaO) is added until all the opium has dissolved and the pH reaches 10-12.  The barrels are then filled with water, covered and left to sit overnight.  The following day the insoluble oils and resins will be floating on the surface, the opium solution containing the morphine is then siphoned out into separate containers.  



The dark brown opium solution which contains the morphine is siphoned off from the insoluble oils and residues in the opium.  The solution may then be filtered again through cloth or sacks to further remove insoluble particles.  The filtrate (liquid portion) is then poured back into a barrel.  


At this point the morphine is ready to be precipitated (solid morphine comes out of the liquid)  by the addition of Ammonium Chloride (NH4Cl) while stirring continuously.  After all the ammonium chloride is added, the barrel is covered and left to stand overnight.




The following morning the contents of the barrel are poured into a bucket lined with cloth soaked in warm water.  After being poured through the bucket the morphine base is wrapped in the filtering cloth and squeezed to remove remaining liquid.  The brownish-grey morphine base is then spread out on a cloth to air-dry in the sun.  The dried morphine base is then weighed in preparation for the acetylation reaction to convert the morphine to heroin.  This crude morphine base is about 50% morphine, 20% narcotine and 30% other compounds.




The crude morphine base is placed in an aluminum pot and a slight excess of acetic anhydride is added to the pot.  The pot is stirred until all the morphine has dissolved and then left for 45 minutes.  A fire is built during this time and after the 45 minutes have passed the pot is heated for 30 minutes.  




The reaction mixture is then poured into a bowl with warm water and the solution is filtered again into another barrel.  A solution of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is poured into the barrel, carbon dioxide gas is given off as the base reacts with the acid.[1]  When the solution no longer gives off gas and the pH reaches 10 the crude heroin base will be precipitated out of the solution.

The solution is then filtered again through a cloth.  The brownish colored crude heroin is then poured into a bowl to be prepared for the final purification step.  

The brown heroin base is then dissolved in dilute hydrochloric acid until the pH reaches 7-8.  Activated carbon is added to the solution and left to sit for 30 minutes.  The solution is then filtered again through a cloth, and a second time through a filter paper.  After the impurities are removed, the heroin base is precipitated out by addition of a dilute ammonia solution until the pH reaches 12.  The solution is filtered again, leaving a relatively pure, white heroin base.

The final step involves dissolving the heroin base in a hydrochloric acid and acetone solution. The solution is filtered through a filter paper into a metal bowl.  The liquid is evaporated leaving off-white heroin hydrochloride.  This final product is about 75% pure, see Table 4 below.  The yield of heroin from raw opium, is about 6% by weight.  



The process of making heroin from opium is a simple one and can be done anywhere in the world.  The following two tables list the needed equipment and chemicals needed for the process.  Calling these laboratories is generous, and truly an insult to real chemical labs.  For these reasons it should be obvious that there will never be a victory in the war against heroin by attempting to stop the supply at its source.  Opium poppies grow all over the world and the chemical reaction requires only the most primitive equipment.  Electricity and running water is not even needed.  The only chemical that would be difficult in any way to procure is the acetic anhydride.  

The intensified effort to block the Taliban's access to acetic anhydride comes as the Afghan war turns deadlier, with a record 236 U.S. and allied troops killed so far this year, according to icasualties.org, a Web site that tracks coalition fatalities. U.S. Army General John Craddock, supreme allied commander for Europe, is pushing to increase military involvement in countering the narcotics trade. 
The chemical allows Afghanistan's drug lords to dramatically increase revenue by producing heroin in their own laboratories instead of shipping out raw opium to be processed elsewhere. According to Craddock, a kilo of opium fetches about $100, compared with $3,500 for heroin.
This article is from 2008, so apparently that "rare" victory was short-lived.  Given the 6% yield of heroin from opium, it would take 16.7 kg of opium to produce 1 kg of heroin.  Using the figures provided by Craddock, to produce a kilogram of heroin requires $1,670 worth of opium to produce a product worth $3,500, more than doubling the value.  Additionally the final product is only 6% the weight, making it easier to smuggle to destination countries.  Compared to the logistics of smuggling thousands of tons of opium out of the country to be processed elsewhere, it is far easier to smuggle the acetic anhydride into the country than opium out.  



 

[1] Sodium bicarbonate is better known as baking soda and acetic acid as vinegar.  Remember in grade school the model volcanoes made by mixing vinegar and baking soda to simulate an explosion?  As the basic soium bicarbonate reacts with the acetic acid carbon dioxide gas is released.  Commercial vinegar used in cooking is only between 4-8% acid, the rest being water.  Acetic Anhydride is like two molecules of acetic acid stuck together, but does not have water added.  Water can degrade the acetic anhydride.  Due to its use in the production of heroin, acetic anhydride is "watched" by the DEA.

Many of the images and information in this post were taken from the following document:

Documentation of a heroin manufacturing process in Afghanistan. U. Zerell, B. Ahrens and P. Gerz. Federal Criminal Police Office, Wiesbaden, Germany [Link]

127 comments:

  1. This article stikes me as being testament to what happens under an intentionally created and maintained black market. If you are part of the majority and choose to ingest a disinfectant (alcohol, whose first metabolite is a known carcinogen) for the purposes of altering your mind, you have the privilege of having the state ensure it is made under food-grade conditions. Conversely, if you are part of a very small minority that chooses to ingest a relatively safe drug (heroin [morphine]) for the purposes of altering your mind, the state dictates that it be manufactured in "backyard" conditions with minimal quality control. Does this make sense? No, other than to the state, who profits in many ways from this insanity. Humans do the most extroadinary malevolant things to each other.

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    1. It is worth pointing out the number of alcohol poisonings that happened during alcohol prohibition. Thousands died from tainted booze. Too often though people's attitude is that drug users deserve to die, merely for the "crime" of using the "wrong" drugs.
      The main point I was trying to make in the article is just how easy it is to make heroin from opium. The process is so simple there can be no victory in the war on drugs by eradicating poppy crops, which can be grown anywhere. In fact I am surprised there is not more domestic production. Jim Hogshire has been trying to spread the word for years now.

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    2. (I'm WAY late on this one, too........as usual.)

      "Matt" made the comment, "Humans do the most extroadinary malevolant things to each other." Indeed we do. The human species is the only species in the history of life on Earth that systematically maims, tortures, and kills its own simply for pleasure and/or personal profit....not survival, personal profit: to have something one wants (not necessarily needs) that someone else has.

      I've known a number of "functional users" and "chippers" over the years and, still, I find myself amazed at how well they lived life. I'm one of them....at least I was. Whereas many men like to spend their "play-money" on cars, boats, broads, and booze....with which to alter their minds, get behind the wheel of an automobile or in a boat and risk the lives of innocent people, including their mistresses, I spent much less money on my "hobbies" and my drug of choice.....and stayed home and enjoyed being with my wife and children. I enjoyed every aspect of life far more than I ever did, and now do, "sober". The best part of all was that, being a chronic sufferer of moderate to sever pain for 30 years, I hurt less, felt better, and functioned immensely better than I am now.

      As MorePheen pointed out, "Kitchen Kemistry" tends to leave impurites in the final product that are dangerous to human health. Methamphetamine and "meth labs" are an example of such problems, especially when performed by those without adequate education/training and equipment.....never mind the fire/explosion hazard inherent to the practice. The term "blind drunk" comes from the practice of drinking methyl alcohol (methanol)many years ago. Methanol has an affinity for nervous tissue, particularly the optic never and, among it's metabolites are formic acid and formaldehyde....often used in the long-term preservation of animals/tissue ....which gave rise to another term of old: "pickle your liver".....a reference to cirrhosis of the liver due to excess alcohol (in this case formaldehyde) consumption. We still saw a few cases of this every now and then when I worked in clinical labs some 15 years ago. (I wish I could locate a particular clinical/quantitative research article on this subject....it's very interesting.)

      But back to the main point, Matt: People suck!


      -ThrashMikki

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    3. Wow crazy shit.

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    4. ThrashMikki, I so totally agree with you, as a female now at 46, with physical pain due to certain illness, I stayed home enjoyed myself and was happy and productive, yes I was a functioning person and I certainly would have never got the quality education I have under the influence of marijuana, but made it through with the help of poppies. I'm not dissing marijuana, it's made for some and it's ok, but not for others.

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    5. Can anyone explain why Mexico seems to exclusively produce "tar" heroin, when the process of making this much purer product is not really that difficult? Tar heroin is terrible for your body, and is not worth nearly as much...so why all the garbage tar heroin in the west of the US?? And why is it still so prevalent when the other stuff would sell SO much better, is smaller in quantity so easier to smuggle? It seems they must have things locked down where no one else can come in selling the better stuff...I can't think of any other reason than a controlled and manipulated black market.

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    6. From what I have read, Mexican heroin producers simply are poor chemists. The East Coast is dominated by Colombian heroin, who utilized their cocaine networks to muscle out the East Asian drug traffickers in the 90's. When Colombia began growing significant amounts of poppy, Colombian drug lords imported Chinese chemists to produce a high quality product.

      Mexican "black tar" is probably the result of mixing the acetic anhydride with an impure mixture of morphine and other components of opium. In short, they use a sloppy technique which results in an impure, tarry mix of heroin, acetyl-morphine, morphine and codeine.. You don't have to be a chemist to make "black tar."

      Why don't the Mexican drug cartels hire professional chemists? I don't know. Heroin, even relatively impure "black tar", is a pretty potent drug. So while it would make sense to smuggle a purer product, even a few kilos is a large amount. Its so cheap to produce, and the markup so high, I guess they figure its not worth the extra effort to make a good final product.

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    7. Black tar is usually the result of skipping many of the procedures leaving a product ,though mimicking the effects of heroin have a toxic effect on the body as it includes many base materials that can not be readily discharged from the body and can affect the lungs and kidneys of users! for that reason it is important that ALL the processing steps be taken.

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    8. Yeah, black tar is a quicker way to develop the base and the climate in Sth America WONT allow for the opium poppy to grow fast enough so a new process was made!! they even modified the poppy plant so it could grow in the mountians of columbia!!

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    9. Not to rain on the parade, but while very diluted morphine is less dangerous than alcohol, processed heroine is one of the most dangerous drugs out there, much more so than even the highest proof alcohol (190, to my knowledge, which is 95% ethyl alcohol). This is one thing where I really believe the state should outlaw, just because of how addictive it is and how easy it is to OD on heroine.

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    10. ive been converting raw opium ,by first drying it thoroughly till crispy , then mixing with baking soda over heat till its totally dry , then AA (Double) acetic acid ?? not sure of the correct name its very smelly and hard to get , a few drops onto the dried spoon of the mixture and then 10 mins in the oven at 180 degrees, bingo , its done ,cool and be sure all the AA is evaporated ,fill spoon with water and a pinch of Citrus Acid , reheat ,turns a dark brown , filter and draw into a fit , filter again using wheel filter , comes out brown but clean and clear, ready to use, very nice but probably not quiet Heroin but still very nice and can be strong, this is the same method exactly we use converting MST's Morphine sulphate Tablets which come out a dark red colour and is very very strong and just like heroin , My question is is there a better way to convert the opium , must be simple as im no chemist .
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      m

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    11. @Unknown 2:25
      You're an idiot. First when commenting on a heroin post learn how to spell the drug right. Heroin converts to morphine in the body, so if morphine is less dangerous than alcohol, how can heroin be the most dangerous drug out there?

      As for how concentrated or diluted the drug is, this doesn't matter if you know what you're doing. A 100mg/mL solution of morphine is 10X as concentrated as a 10mg/mL solution. But if you take 1mL of the former and 10mL of the latter you get the same dose. Similarly a shot of hard alcohol has about the same total alcohol content as a beer.

      Concentrated doses are only dangerous when the purity is completely unknown (as in black market heroin) or when used by reckless and uneducated drug users.

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    12. @Unknown 2:25
      You're an idiot. First when commenting on a heroin post learn how to spell the drug right. Heroin converts to morphine in the body, so if morphine is less dangerous than alcohol, how can heroin be the most dangerous drug out there?

      As for how concentrated or diluted the drug is, this doesn't matter if you know what you're doing. A 100mg/mL solution of morphine is 10X as concentrated as a 10mg/mL solution. But if you take 1mL of the former and 10mL of the latter you get the same dose. Similarly a shot of hard alcohol has about the same total alcohol content as a beer.

      Concentrated doses are only dangerous when the purity is completely unknown (as in black market heroin) or when used by reckless and uneducated drug users.

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    13. @Anonymous 3:47

      It soounds like you are making crude heroin from raw opium. While this can be done there are undesirable parts of the plant that come along for the ride and can mess up your veins. You need to extract the morphine first.

      If you can't follow the steps I wrote about in this post, seek help from someone with a chem background.

      I don't know where you live, but in the US that would be narcotics manufacturing. The cops out here don't play, they will ruin your life over drugs so know the laws of wherever you're from. And be safe.

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    14. Your never gonna stop man from wanting and getting two things in life. Sex and drugs.Both these things in a different world could all be legal, safer more pure and diseased free if legal and properly regulated and all in society except the 'weak" minded individuals who can't control their mind and become addicted could choose and use as they wanted. In most of our world alcohol is fully excepted by governments and society even with all the known problems associated with it? but yet we continue to have double standards for everything else.Those in power throughout history seem to dictate which drugs are to be demonized and which aren't. It's all a bunch of contradicting, hypocritical crap but thats man...

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  2. MY GOD, MY GOD!! Andy - I found myself convulsing physically as I read your latest entry and looked at the pictures. I think about the people working at the Sam Adams' brewery, I think about that and I think about a factory of morphine flowing into giant garbage cans and huge walmart style buckets of china white and I just lose my mind if you will. I think to myself, perhaps some of that propaganda heavily heaped upon us as kids "everybody has a calling in life" and "when you find the job you love it wont feel like work" well visions of myself carrying gigantic vats of heroin from one corner of a room to the next, why i definitely believe it is a calling man.

    HOLY SHEET MAN. This is sensational. God, I can't even fathom how to write the words to convey my monumental jealousy of the people in these pictures. GOD DAMN why did I have to be born white anglo-saxon American?!!? Is there any way to convince these people that they can abuse my body physically like a work mule or work horse and I will do any kind of manual labor they'd want to work their fields with them? Not only that man but at night when everybodies eating bone soup and celery if they get bored watching the fire burning in the burnt out TV cabinet I'd be happy to get up for them and spoof America for their entertainment!!!

    GOD DAMN DUDE! do you think we'd have a chance if we convert to Islam? I understand this is the mid-east, as you know man my fam is partially Asian- maybe i'd have better luck in the Golden Triangle?

    JESUS H FOR HEROIN CHRIST can you imagine that man? LUGGING AROUND GARBAGE CANS FILLED WITH DOPE!! GARBAGE CANS!! FILLED TO THE TOP!!

    maybe belinda carslile was right when she opined, "ew baby, heaven is a place on earth."

    i think there is evidence to support her assertion right here, right now.

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    1. Maybe you could go there with a sign in arabic that reads, "Will work for dope." Or you could try Mexico, South America or the Golden Triangle, all three produce heroin.

      In all seriousness though there is no reason heroin could not be produced domestically. During the 19th century opium poppies were grown within the US and opiate products were produced domestically. There have been a few minor busts of opium and coca crops, but these have been found usually due to marijuana eradication campaigns that stumble on other drug crops. Given the enormous profit involved and the already large amount of domestic marijuana produced, I can only surmise the reason is due to ignorance (many people believe the "right" poppies only grow in certain climates) and opiophobia.

      As for the bins filled with dope and the 200-liter barrels, this only goes to show that opium (and heroin) is not a precious substance, it is prohibition that makes it worth more than gold. If not for the massive human cost, it would almost be funny, all this fuss over a substance that is basically no more valuable than other agricultural products. Even under prohibition a kilo of opium only costs $100, at least in Afghanistan.

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    2. love it man what the hell its all good .i still like to be alert. back in a time not long ago .we could and still can make iodine crystals.red phospourous and a molasis based ephedrine crystals...clean as can be but somehow i like this site .ignorance is sometimes bliss. ...making meth l s d 25 is also a fun one . ...morning glory what a flower of bliss. ergotimine and a fungi of rye . but none the less most drugs are fun to manufacture . i love the opiates . and like the fact solvant drawn up to a t . good work on your reserch and factoids . i would use a differnt method of cook in a process for the usa. ya people suck but its only the aptitude of profit and lose site of the talanted genuios that couldnt understant the savey mind . peace my friend time too take a pain killer my metal bones are fucking killing me . dont want these fucking pills .i want some seeds . .........let me know ....seeds please .ill check in later...........

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    3. Remmy Skye, gosh you took the words right out of my thoughts, you and I are on the same frame of mind I swear.

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  3. oh hey man, listen dude there is something really aggrivating out there - i knew it was coming myself, i was surprised it hadn't happened sooner - im sure you yourself would have suspected this as well but, now that its out there, i have no doubt it will get trumped up pretty soon and find it's way to the so called "Drug reform" community which will love it to death because afterall they are more often than not, not "drug reform" but simply the pot populist, pot exclusive reformers - parading around a movement that is not limited to a substance - i dont know why they do this, honestly. ANYHOW

    the article is from those bastards NORML. They basically purport that marijuana is the way to get off all so called "Dangerous drugs" and the like. Alcohol, heroin, crystal meth - you name it. The article cites some research and asserts that, rather than methadone *shudder* people should be given marijuana.

    OH IT'S TRUE MAN i hope you go check the article out. It made me violently angry brother matter of fact I'm getting violently angry again right now just discussing it.

    SO, the marijuana populists jump into bed with us, they hate our guts though and have this selfish superiority thing going on, now, why in any case they take a stand with us when they feel as they do about us and reform, i do not know, i can only deduce that they see it as strength in numbers. But the instant pot is legalized, they're gone. History, and they'll sit with joint in hand on the cell phone with 911 narcing out any of us they possibly can. I know it.

    AND JUST WHAT WE NEED - this kind of BULLSHIT - WEED to come off h? WTF WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD EVER CHOSE WEED OVER H? OVER ANY OPIATE, REALLY? When you got to face down withdrawals and you got to choose between weed and suboxone or weed and methadose WTF its a no brainer - it really pisses me off because it just goes to show how ignorant those pot populist bastards are.

    Let me end it with this man, im not saying this is law of science or anything but I will have anyone know that in my long and traveled career as a junkie for hire, a whore for the "Drug" side in this "war on drugs" i have NEVER EVER seen anybody whose done both weed and opiates prefer weed. I HAVE, however, seen many FERVENT, ORTHODOX STYLE STONERS with jamaican flag tats and bob marley tatooed on their heart, whove never tried opiates before and have spent 10 years loving weed, one day have a little taste of what we do and swear off weed as a first love long gone replaced by the foxier, sexier new lover and heroine of pain. It's true man, I've seen it in fact many times.

    WHICH makes me think this all the much more, these clueless motherf**kers basically talk alot of bullshit about something they've never done. And for me dude it's like, i cannot begin to tell you just how much I HATE IT when people who've never even done opiates talk about opiates and opiate policy. People whom, if asked to draw what heroin looks like would probably decline out of fear of embarassment. Dude its one of those things that piss me off to no end. I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way man.

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    1. I think you are referring to this NORML blog post:
      Study: Cannabis Is A “Potential Exit Drug To Problematic Substance Use”

      This is not new. I was aware of at least one formal study done in Vancouver using medical MJ for helping "addicts" abstain prior to this newer one.

      Have you seen the documentary "American Drug War: the last white hope"? I think that's the title though I may be paraphrasing, anyway the director Kevin Booth did another film called "How Weed Won the West." In one segment a medical marijuana dispensary staffer was giving a woman advice on using cannabis to overcome a methamphetamine addiction. One the one hand I can understand this, as far as drugs go pot is pretty harmless, am I'm all for harm reduction. There is one reason the study noted to chose weed over opiates, the lack of physical dependence (and hence withdrawal), though that argument could be made just as easily for cocaine over opiates.

      But I also see this as part of the cult(ure) of cannabis evangelism. The belief that cannabis is a cure for all ills, medical or societal. Cannabis has indisputable medicinal qualities, but is not a panacea. I haven't researched this fully, but I have serious doubts that cannabis products will replace synthetic fibers like nylon and polyester, or that cannabis oils will solve world hunger or our dependence on oil.

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    2. Hey Andy

      very good point in that last paragraph man and you know I often lose sight of that factor myself - I think what ends up happening is, I get so programmed into this reform stuff and the reform community and I already am aware of just how completely irrational the opponent is - as I said to you privately about the fellow whom after provided with physical evidence of the ills of prohibition simply stood there stubbornly and said "I disagree" as though you could disagree with fact as in if Christopher Columbus had instead asked the Queen of Spain instead of 3 ships to sail to Indian rather funds for a spaceship and whence after getting a satellite in place and taking plenty of photos, presented it to the modern men and said "BEHOLD THE WORLD IS ROUND"

      and they say "BOLLOCKS THE WORLD IS FLAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT FOOL"

      I think you've got a good point about the evangelism of them man. I mean we can get so caught up in how outrageous the opponent's opinion is that we or I guess I should say I here because it is definitely not on you or anyone else its me who lost sight of the fact that while they are somewhat on my side of the fence with this, they are, nonetheless, a bit evangelical and delusional.

      Now Andy as regards Kevin Booth - not only did I see his film but I reached out to him and had a very brief exchange with him. I still have the emails too. Unfortunately though Andy I can't say I have anything shocking or wonderful really to show you but rather as you would assume man I definitely stated OUR case to him but I talked about two things in my message to him, I stated our case and, I talked about the junkie girl in his movie and told him I thought she was hot and was hoping he'd hook me up with some contact info.

      LOL I swear man, I bet youre like ah that Junkei Moruhine son of a bitch if hes not sticking needles in his self hes always trying to stick a needle in someone else

      and youre right.

      But

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    3. anyway man the thing about his film - I saw it because when I went over the old folks home like over a year ago and they just got Netflix they had this DVD player that you can stream Netflix on and naturally my first search was about drugs and drug documentaries - the Drug War Last Hope film was the only thing they offered - IDK if that's any different know though - and anyways I looked at it and for the beginning part, I was already concerned that it was gonna be as you properly said, Evangelical Pot bullshit but he slowly touched on everything, and with the rolled up dollar bill on the cover art I couldn't see him only talking about weed.

      If you remember correctly Andy in that film somewhere towards the middle he stops and mentions how during the filming something happened in his life with his house sitter or whatever. He explains how he found works I think and burnt spoons or whatever - the point is he says he found evidence of heroin use and I believe that at this point in the film he's yet to talk about heroin as a focus (even though he doesnt ultimately say very much about it later either.)

      What happens then is that he DOES admit to being an ignorant judgmental opiate hating bastard and I give him tons of kudos for stopping and recognizing it because he does, he apologizes and realizes how wrong it is for him and his viewpoint to judge opiates and opiate users.

      Comes to find out the chick is totally my type, first of all youve got to be punk rock to be my type but more importantly if youre a junkie chick you and I got matters of romance to discuss, put the two together and it was oh thank heaven seven eleven if you will. no it wasnt and its never as good as earning say 20 bucks and going to meet The Man but its somewhat cool - I suppose. Anyway she tells her side of the story. Great. He then goes on to do not even a really lukewarm job covering opiates later on in his film.

      Well as you would imagine man that definitely crossed the line for me and pissed me off. I went to the documentary official website and I emailed him and told him how I felt about drugs and less importantly I told him how I wanted to feel about the girl.

      He was very receptive

      about the girl. He did give me info on where to find her how to reach her. He didnt say much about the more important matter, unfortunately.

      but I guess it's a recommended film.

      Dude all that's left now is for carol singing stoners to go door to door on 4:20. I swear to God

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    4. @ Remmy Skye
      (1) The belief that heroin is an evil, pernicious substance is so entrenched that even when people are presented with evidence to the contrary, they still maintain their bias. It is a similar phenomenon as when people group all illicit drugs into a single category. Even after the difference between, say cocaine and heroin, is explained to them, they still tend to view all illicit drugs as the same. Classic cognitive dissonance.

      (2) Kevin Booth has two documentaries out, the first "American Drug War: The Last White Hope" was released in 2007. The second, "How weed Won the West," was released in 2010. Apparently he is working on a sequel to American Drug War. "How Weed Won the West" had much more pot evangelism, lots of people saying how superior pot is to pharmaceuticals. Whatever, if people get relief from cannabis I'm all for it, as long as people are free to use other drugs too.

      I do seem to remember him (Kevin Booth) claim an oxycontin addiction in one of the films. Booth does seem to be a cool dude, according to wikipedia he used to work with the comedian Bill Hicks, as you said "American Drug War" has problems but I do recommend it.

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    5. Guys,

      I speak from personal experience and from the experiences of relatives and friends addicted to opiates, morphine and heroin in particular. After years of use, one does not simply walk away from it or "switch" drugs. I am so sick and tired of all of these supposed "experts" out there (who have NEVER experienced anything stronger than an aspirin) telling the rest of us just how easy it is to walk away from an addiction....to anything. After many, many years and WAY too much human suffering, finally....FINALLY....the physical sciences are showing both qualitatively and quantitatively that addiction is not merely as simple as a choice. Yes, we do it to ourselves....once we get started but, for some of us, we didn't start because we wanted to. It was started for us when we found ourselves suffering an injury significant enough to warrant strong pain killers. For some, it was simply a curiosity, a recreational adventure that quickly turned serious, perhaps even deadly. The psycho-social sciences are now informing us of mental/emotional factors that have a significant affect on the presence/occurrence of addiction in any form. (I met all but two criteria on the list.) Personally, I didn't CHOOSE to be addicted to anything. I CHOSE to relieve physical (and arguably emotional) pain when licensed physicians failed me. There are MANY people in the world who are suffering in some way and, there are better alternatives to the current "legal" regimen of prescription drugs and antidepressants.

      One of the things that just "kills" me is the fact that alcohol is legal when alcohol withdrawal is reported to be psychosomatically worse and have a significantly greater risk of death than heroin (which is illegal) withdrawal. Why in the world would the powers that be allow that which is purportedly more dangerous in terms of withdrawal than that which is not? People die from alcohol poisoning with regularity. The key difference being the amount of alcohol necessary to kill versus the amount of heroin (or other banned drug) needed to kill....and that is dependent upon the individual. Most heroin fatalities of which I am aware are due not to heroin alone but to heroin in combination with some other drug such as cocaine (speedball, anyone?). Many other heroin fatalities are due to the overzealousness of an addict in the midst of withdrawal attempting to alleviate the physical and psychological pain as fast as possible. they get careless and inject/ingest too much. (Admittedly, the level of purity comes into play in some heroin-related deaths, but I speak only of those deaths with which I am familiar.)

      Yeah, all you "potheads" out there, I DARE you to generate an addiction to any opiate/opioid of your choice and then go "cold turkey" off the opiate/opioid and ONLY smoke pot without supplementing it with the opiate/opioid you used/abused or buprenorphine or methadone.

      Good luck with that, suckers!


      -ThrashMikki

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    6. Arrg I wrote a long response but my connection got interrupted and I lost it. I'm going to summarize the points

      While I believe drug use is voluntary, people's reactions to a given drug are not. If you live in the developed world, you are going to take opiates at some point in your life. Whether medically or for recreation, most people do not go on to develop an addiction. Opiates are really only addictive for those predisposed to addiction. Most people find that the drug quells their emotional pain or improves their mood. If you are depressed, opiates can have a powerful antidepressent effect.

      And for the "crime" of self-medication we persecute these drug "abusers" mercilessly.

      Most ODs are the result of mixing opiates with other CNS depressants. Especially benzos or alcohol. Opiates when used correctly are remarkably safe and non-toxic. The fact that there is no quality control over heroin purity and dosage adds to the danger. I'm working on a future post to address ODs.

      I am very skeptical that pot can be substituted for opiates. Two different drugs. If someone wants to quit using opiates and they say smoking pot helps, I say more power to them but when I hear "Why don't you just smoke herb, man?" it is ignorant and annoying. Some of the marijuana populists believe cannabis is a panacea. Some even believe cannabis can replace opiates for pain relief, while it may be beneficial to some people for some types of pain opiates are still the gold standard.

      I have some papers and half-finished posts on some of the ery topics you brought up. Been busy with work but will try to get to them soon.

      best,
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    7. i can care less about brainwashing antidotes too the goods .fuck that weed. have fun with that.....fuck too if its a cure all. i dont give a shit about these pills they give me for pain im not haveing this sickness.are this fucked up body i live in ....being called an illegal war on me or my pain levals .i want the seeds ....fuck that middle man shit i can hold my own in the lab quite cleanly and aficiantly .........what about that conversation . ...........mp.... let me now man ..... heppaneck ...was here

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    8. I know someone quite close and he self medicate's with heroin because he suffers from extreme anxiety, clinical depression, social phobia, agoraphobia, OCD etc and was thinking of committing suicide until he started to use heroin and it made him feel normal for the first time in 20 year's and to him it's the best anti anxiety, anti depressant there is. He has tried nearly oall of the anti deppreseant's, anti anxiety medicines and apart from bad side affects they didn't make him feel better or normal yet he is persecuted by the authorities for making himself feel normal, how sad is that. The war on drug's has been one collosal failure on all level's yet these dipshit American politicians are such dumb pieces of shit that they think that they are winning the war, when intact it has been lost a long time ago but they still ain't got the message. The only sane way forward is to legalise heroin and prescribe it to the unfortunate addicts but good old uncle Sam thinks it knows what is best for everyone, fucking moronic cunt's. I hope the rest of the world has come to its senses and tells America to stuff it's war on drug's up its arse and instead rely on scientific studies and facts that the best way forward is to give heroin to heroin addicts so that they will not spend all of their time running around doing crime to support their habit's, their health will improve, less cost to society etc so it's a win win situation but unfortunately these politicians will never listen, so fuck them.

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    9. @ Anonymous

      Well said, and your friend's (or someone close) experience is by no means unique. For some people opioids certainly make them feel normal, which is to say without the drug in their bloodstream they feel abnormal. I have serious doubts such cases should really be considered addiction.

      The war on drugs is a campaign of systematic human rights abuses. That most Americans do not see it that way is tragic.

      I do however have some hope that things are changing. Slowly, so very slowly, but changing nonetheless.

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  4. @Andy "In fact I am surprised there is not more domestic production. Jim Hogshire has been trying to spread the word for years now."

    The lack of domestic production is probably, in part, due to lack of awareness of it as a possibility. That, and the widespread ignorance of pharmacology. In my experience, even most users of opiates seem to think opium poppies are an exotic plant only grown in far-away tropical regions, analogous to the coca plant. Also, many users seem to be as ignorant to the way drugs work and the chemicals they are comprised of as their non-user counterparts. Even a lot of people that know that it is possible to grow opium poppies think that only a certain type (Papaver somniferum) yields opium, when in reality other strains/species also have high morphine content, or at least enough to produce the desired effects.

    By the way, nice blog you've got here. Even though it's always had good articles, it seems to have really started to bloom. Keep up the good work.

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    1. My experience with the general ignorance among users is consistent with yours. I agree that most users are quite ignorant about the details of pharmacology, though they do have a better understanding of the different classes of drugs, non-users tend to lump all illicit drugs into the same category. Hence the (mis)classification of cocaine as a narcotic.

      I believe there are only two species of poppies that produce morphine in any significant quantity. Many so-called species of poppy are somniferum with different names, papaver gigantum for example is the same species of somniferum. The ignorance goes deeper, the drug warriors in the Nixon and Carter administration were surprised when heroin production moved to Mexico and South America after cracking down in Asia (the balloon effect). The US itself produced a significant amount of opium in the 19th century, if any of these so-called experts had bothered to look at historical poppy production they would have realized it basically grows all over the world. Greece, Egypt, all over Asia, the Persian empire and all throughout Europe poppies were cultivated for opium/poppy pod tea use. Thomas Jefferson at his estate cultivated poppies, and not just for ornamental purposes.

      Thanks for the positive feedback, the site is starting to come together.

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    2. I agree,if opium were available it would drastically reduce the public health concerns of hepatitis and AIDS,significantly cut down on accidental overdoses and the addiction probably less severe

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    3. Ok so I'm a long time opiate user for both bodily injuries and depression, anxiety, ECT..etc..I have been growing poppies for a while now I have a pure huge pod extremely large white (bright cocain white) and extremely large yields I'm just having trouble trying too make my own personal medicine I prefer to inject but I will also smoke it from time to time. I followed your directions but still having a bit of trouble producing well anything at all really I could use some help asap if someone can help enlighten me with the procedure also I was wondering if anyone new how to make the heroin tar that I mostly get as I'm on the west coast any help would bee much appreciated and I do have some amazing strains if someone might be interested in some please someone hook me up on some info make me a smarter drug user and drop some chemistry on me thanks for you time I dig this posting

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    4. To anonymous,
      are you still looking for help? I live in AZ and have chemistry experience...let met know.

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    5. Oh and i am an opiate user too!

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  5. I wish that a kilo of opium cost $100 in the states. I'd be all over that. $100 gets you like 2-3 grams where i live :/

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    1. The price of opium fluctuates. I used the $100 figure to make the math easier and to demonstrate my point (that the war on drugs will never be won by supply reduction methods). The price lately is between 200-300 per kilo.

      Opium is nearly impossible to find in the US due to our misguided drug policies, while heroin is almost everywhere. $100 for 2-3 grams seems high. If we apply a 10% morphine value to opium thats like 200-300mg of morphine. Seems a little high to me but then again the kids these days pay over $1 a milligram for oxy so maybe that's not too high for where you live. .

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    2. Girl,in australia we pay 500 for 1 GRAM!!! I would LOVE to come to america n spend 100 for a few lovely grams!!
      We got a draught here atm. Craving the high.
      Peace out fellow opioid lovers...

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    3. How much morphine is in a gram of raw opium

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    4. How much morphine is in a gram of raw opium

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    5. The morphine content of opium changes based on growing conditions, weather, where it is being grown ect. If my memory is correct, the content varies in range from 7-13%.

      There are genetically modified poppies that produce higher yields and are grown for the pharmaceutical industry.

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    6. damn .. 100 US dollar in Egypt mean 15 gram

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    1. Wow a random person posting on an opiate user site trying to sell H over the phone? Does the DEA actually think we're all so "doped up" that we'd fall for that?

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  8. go to Tasmania opium everywhere the place is overflowing with ripped off morphine from the rerinerys all u need is aa need to know how to make the stuff then the party begins

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  9. people say addiction was not there intent. I agree. but is hard as addiction is to overcome. it is possible. you first have to want off the junk your using really bad. if you want to be off drugs bad enough. or like anything you want in life. you have to earn it. you will have to fight with all you got day by day. there are meds that are not addictive to control the withdrawals ask your doctor for help and be completely honest with the doctor. he will help you if you want a better life. the doctor is there to heal sick people. addiction can be beat but no bullshit its a long road but is possible. but once clean don't make excuses to go back using. your brain will try to trick you to use as it will always remember the drugs it is in your brain. that is never going to leave the brain as the brain stores info for life. but you must be stronger and it will get easier as the longer you stay clean. I was a pill popper I loved them as I suffer depression. but choice being depressed or an addict. I rather deal with the depression its I found much easier then the life of an addict which really sucks worst then depression. there is no perfect life we all have our short Cummings. but life is far better clean. then chasing the drugs just to survive another day and making the dealers. Mercedes payment each month. while you catch city bus each day because you cant own a car. because your money went to the dealer. and the dealer makes a living poisoning you the addict. you can take your life back. it wont be easy to beat addiction is the hardest thing in life you will due. but can I did it. if you fall along the way get back up. the more you try the easier it gets.one day you will succeed. we can always justify our mistakes we make. or we can stop with excuses and face our mistake head first. no more excuses. fix it. you can do it. all of you addicts can get better. quit excusing the addiction behavior with excuses of why you use. how about positive excuses why you should quit. come on people grab the bull by his horns take your life back. tell the dealer to go fu..... himself. you keep your money for you. then you can afford a better life. you wont get rich by stopping drug use. but I will bet your life will improve to where you can live a little more comfortable. meaning better eating habits, keep a job, no legal problems, not hiding from bill collectors,people will better trust you. and on and on and on. don't you want better I know you do. so people lets take our lives back.

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  10. I want to thank you all for your rightful opinions Oh!
    How I do appreciate it all down to this real earth it makes me
    Wonder where all these other addicts wear their badge mine I've none other than on my shoulder. Seriously this should be front page news in all Florida papers. That's all I got thanks for sharing!!!!!!

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  11. Life is so much better clean !!
    I spent from age of 15 to 32 using everyday!! Theiving lying steeling!!
    To try and support my habit !!
    It's way to expensive in Australia !!
    Good luck my fellow opioid lovers!!
    Stay sane and keep it real!!
    Do Wat you love and do it well!!
    2 years and going strong

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    1. Ya life is so much better clean!! I know that for fact..It's just my shitty brain isn't convinced enough..even though in just 4 years 2009-2013 it sucked me dry primarily financially..just because it's so way freaking expensive here in Sydney..140 bucks for 0.33gm, 3 hit if no more dollar in hand..else used 140 in a hit..need 3 hit in a day, freaking $400 a day..

      I am so jealous of this americans/british/europeans who says they can get a hit in 10 bucks.. Only good thing in Australia is, dealers are reliable, at-least in my case.. pro dealers works like office hours...9:30AM-10:30PM every day at campsie or srathfield...7:00AM to 8-9PM sydenham, rockdale.. Once you have money, you get hold of your regular stuff in just 30 mins and a call away..And fixed price of 140 AUD a balloon always and mostly consistent quality..

      Anyway..for full last year, i have controlled myself..dropped from being regular every day to once week, fortnight, monthly and so on... may be did like just 20 times in whole of this last year.. I may not want to quit..but I will need to quit now, If i don't wanna let down my mom and dad...and especially myself getting wasted after having masters engineering degree and 7 years industry experience, i have voluntarily become jobless just so that I don't have excuse of work pressure (which was major factor in my four year secret-junkie life), at the moment just sitting on my ass and reflecting myself, trying to win over this devil within me...Hope to be clean inside out very soon now (few weeks max) and be back on my career to never look back again and start saving every penny i am gonna make for future..

      One thing heroin taught me was value of money, how it feels like of not having any dollar in pocket..how it feels like not having any money to buy a burger even though just spent 140 bucks on a hit...picking up half smoked ciggerate butts up the office astray when no one is looking,. just because don't have 20 bucks to buy a pack of smoke..as was just able to manage that 140 bucks by hook or crook...

      Yup, Life is so much better clean..atleast I can keep my dignity intact... but having said that..my sick brain would run right away to strathfield if only have 140 bucks in hand... Oh lord, when will this urges go away, so I can keep money in pocket and not think of heroin..so I am so afraid now, I am missing out in my career and may have to start all over again.......

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    2. Damn a gram a 100$ down here fuck that 0.33 shit

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  12. Heroin overdose is usually treated with an opioid antagonist, such as naloxone, or naltrexone, which has high affinity for opioid receptors but does not activate them.

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  13. I need to go to bed.....

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  14. Looking for seeds. opiumpoppyseeds.com - not illegal to sell seeds, just to grow them for illegal use, apparently. I just googled it. Read disclaimer on the site.

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  15. Looking for an adventurer pharmacist to come in afghanistan and start making heroin with me, I have the equipments. Email ( Timurbaig@yahoo.com )

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  16. I hear all this chat of wanting seeds? To do what exactly, what the Afghans do ?? You oobviously haven't done the math , do you know how many plants+acres you would need just to get enough for a single addicts survival ? NO?? Check it out ? You will soon put the idea to bed. I did, but seeing them doing it and the thought of making your own the whole process everything just makes me want to cream in my pants! FCK Orgasm's when there's pods to be scored and chemicals to make gold !! :-(),,,

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    1. According to the DEA, each pod produces between 10-100mgs of opium, with 80 mgs being the average. The yield of dried opium per hectare of field is between 8 and 15 Kg. These yields are for Southeast Asia, I've read that Afghani farmers can get upwards of 40+ Kgs per hectare, though that probably involves significant artificial fertilizer use.

      So...with enough land it is absolutely possible to grow your own supply, though certainly illegal (at least here in the US).

      Read more here:
      https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/opium.html

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  17. Hi
    someone, can explain how to make heroin from morphine?
    I morphine hydrochloride 20mg / 1ml! how do the diacetilazione? you know tell me step by step?
    I would be grateful

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    1. Comments like this make me nervous. Attempting to synthesize your own drugs without AT LEAST taking and passing a full two-semester course in organic chemistry (a BS in Chemistry or a related field is even better) is just plain stupid. You're begging to either be caught by the authorities or injure yourself with a lab explosion or by ingesting toxic byproducts from the synthesis.

      The morphine + acetic anhydride --> heroin reaction is simple. If you need step by step instructions you have no business even attempting the conversion. Leave the chemistry to the chemists.

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  18. H.i
    need a little Anhidrido Acetico... If you do not have this you can not do conversion. Greetings from Spain

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  20. Can anyone explain why Mexico seems to exclusively produce (or at least exclusively export) "tar" heroin, when the process of making this much purer product is not really that difficult? Tar heroin is terrible for your body, and is not worth nearly as much...so why all the garbage tar heroin in the west of the US?? And why is it still so prevalent when the other stuff would sell SO much better, is smaller in quantity so easier to smuggle? It seems they must have things locked down where no one else can come in selling the better stuff...I can't think of any other reason than a controlled and manipulated black market.

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    1. See my reply to Matt above on July 28th.

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  21. i <3 herion, sometimes i feed it to my little suicide bombers just before they go on there "big day" (suicide run).. good fun

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  22. i live in GOLDEN CRESCENT(Iran/Balouchestan/Zahedn).i hope to see you in poppy farm&reception with VAFOOR. here pour desirable OPIUM that not expensive.

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  23. Why there s no video on the web with this process.I would love to see that...

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  24. How does one obtain poppy seeds to grow? Anybody on the east coast here?

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    1. The poppy seeds that produce opium are the same put on poppy seed bagels (which is why the tiny amount of morphine in them will cause a positive drug test).

      Gardening stores also carry opium poppy seeds. Though they will never have that name, it will say oriental poppy or something similar.

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  25. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father unless he comes through me." As a former addict, I can assure you who are excited about heroin, run!

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  26. Really interesting article here, thanks. And quite some interesting comments as well. The pain and misery inflicted by modern drugs' policies to individuals and societies are so terrible. And so costly, humanly as well as economically. Sadly most people have little to no ideas about the extend of the damages theses policies and (double) morals have on people, families and communities. Anywho, thanks for the article, I'll definitively keep an eye on your blog.
    Cheers!

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    1. Hello, im from india. A region in north india name punjab. I want to shear my experience with this optical and poppy things and all.
      Here crushed poppy was famous from some decades amoung heavy labour workers except that usually people were achlocal drinkers. With time througj border areas smack came and it striked into youth as it was easy to consume for students and all plus was not easy to indetufy for those who doesnt lnow about it. Than same way heroine replaced smack here.
      People started from wrap. Than sniffing. But with time it become easily available but as expensive as gold. So people started taking injections as less amount could make an injection as compared to have same pleasure over wrap paper. Now new generation is starting from injection as thats what they are learning from there surrounding.
      No one tries to replace it or any thing. Who ever once tasted it what ever he says they do try it whenever they get chance if not on regular basis. Whatrver any one says....
      It has this property where it makes us feel that these things challenges our own control in our own eyes inconsiously. And each time we take that challange just to prove to ourselves instead sometimes knowimg all the right wrong consequences.....
      May that be with us who make it exsist... hee hee

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    2. Hello friend I am also from Punjab in ferozpur district.where u from my dear friend I want to talk with u on heroin can u talk with me give reply as soon as possible ok

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  27. love these comments thanks to you all for these awesome stories

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  28. ive read only one species of poppy is capable of producing opium out of many different species. is this correct ? are the desired species available in the u.s.? thank you

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  30. I love reading all you guys that use heroin censoring "fuck" and "motherfucker" as if you were a priest, as you openly talk about shooting dope et cetera. Fucking Americans...

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  31. Yea because we're evil, right cuz shooting dope is evil right? Gtfo. What are u doing at this site if that's what you think? Fucking non American...

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    1. To that anonymous idiot. Fuck you. How's that? You're an ignorant idiot and you don't belong here neither does your loser cheerleader. Go get drunk and have kidney failure. Losers. Yea, unbelievable fuckin A,how dare admitted proud heroin shooters censor their cuss words! Did they not read the rules? If you shoot dope you have to be a foul mouthed, classless barbarian. Lol. God forbid, dope shooters behaving like gentlemen and ladies, why, it's an oxymoron isn't it? Lol. No the only moron here is that anonymous poster and their cheerleader. I however won't censor myself and be a gentleman, which is contrary to my nature because I am a dope shooting gentleman, but I digress: fuck you. Now to my comrades, brothers and sisters, love who you are, embrace what you (we) do, 12 step with its 5% success rate is wrong and dying. You have nothing to be ashamed of, you're all beautiful and assholes like this just ignore cuz they don't get it they never will and they and their like are way beneath us.

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  32. A lot of accurate information. I've always been of the mind if Heroin was allowed to be procured by adults, we would have less adversarial issues between human beings as well as nations. And there is no reason why overall productivity would diminish. In fact there is a good argument it could increase if we all knew what we have available to smooth the sharp eddges of life

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  33. I've never tried heroin.. always afraid that I'd like it too much. However, I HAVE smoked opium several times, years ago.. and it was Ooo la-laa

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  34. Remmy Skye YOU are hilarious! And a very intelligent junkie! But most of us addicts are. I have an intense love with affair with heroin. I have been off it since May. With the help (more like HELL) of Suboxone. Yes it helped me get past the withdrawal of the h,HOWEVER.. no one fuking told me if u stop taking the shit the withdrawal is 100x WORSE than heroin. Sweet baby geezus I wanted to die. And I'd hate to have to live in AU and pay $140 for .33! In Washington state here a gram is $100 depending on who u are dealing with, and it's usually very good dope. But anyway... Great Blog! I'm glad I came across it. Keep up the good work!!

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  35. Remmy Skye, Tattooedjnkygrl and every heroin connoisseur out there - we will prewail ! I certainly fucking hope so :)

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  36. Heroin. I just love it. Got into it coz I liked the mystery of it and It delivered. Makes me feel better, I can function alrite regarding all aspects of my life so why the fuck do I have to hide it from these ignorant cocksmokers ? Actually, I do not hide it that much, I love shocked faces gawping at me when I'm off me trolley but wouldn't like to get nicked for possession so....anyway, fuck you preachers, I got one life and I ain't gonna spend it drinking your shitty beer or whatever. Keep it, I got mine. Bless

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  38. I'm a chronic pain patient for 20 years after a car wreck and multiple spine surgeries. I've had to use opiates to have any quality of life for these 20 years. Now the politicians are in it. Making my Dr uncomfortable prescribing with all these new CDC guidelines. Which are bullshit. I have never abused, sold, given away or injected my drugs. I've read all your posts on this blog. I agree with you. People who have never had to use morphine for long term pain relief, or have just never used them period, Don't have a clue. Nor should they be able to enter the conversation. Their opinion is not valid. Their studies are bullshit. They don't live in my skin. Now that I'm forced to find a more qualified pain specialist. I hope I can get the help I need without all this government intrusion into my private medical care. What a bunch of martini sipping, country club, in it for tax money, FOOLS. I'm pissed. I'd love to try heroin. Seems like it's all around me. Just don't speak the language to get hooked up. It seems to me that it would be a lot less hassle than getting what helps me to work and function from a doctor or pharmacy. I'm just saying.

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  39. So much good information in this blog. I'm very glad I came here.I can't substitute Pot for the opiates I need to keep my part time job. Or substitute anything else like alcohol for the pain relief I get from prescription drugs. Chronic mind numbing, stop me dead in my tracks pain on a daily basis, causes me to need these medicines. What is so hard for people to understand this. Maybe to help the idiots who think they know anything about chronic pain, should have this basic experience. Let me put their lower back in a big vice. Then tighten until they just about scream. Watch their pain and discomfort until they get used to the pressure. Then let off just a bit until the bloodflow makes the pain return with a sudden sharpness. And repeat this process over a 24 hour period. they might want some relief. But none will be given. I'd hate to see them develop an addiction.

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    1. Painpal [slow clap]
      My L4 in my spine is out of place and I was talking 7.5 hydrocodone pills to help with the pain. I could only take 1 every 6 hours! I had to eat four or five for pain relieve. However when I ran out the doctor had a 2 week period I had to wait to pick up more. I was lucky to get a good buddy who sold me heroin for 80 bucks a gram. The withdraw was horrible but not as bad as never sleeping or eating and from a 1 to 10 scale of pain, 1 being the lowest I was at a constant 8. The first couple pills I popped I felt high, but after about a month of use I began to feel normal. Also the heroin was cheaper then my prescription... How messed up is that?

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  42. I do not understand the written table. What do you mean 0.1 and 0.29? Do you mean one gram or what and what comes value for each kilogram of opium ???

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    1. 0.1 IS 100GRAMS. iT SAYS KILOS ON THE TOP SO 0.29KG IS 290GRAMS BECOUSE 1KG IS 1000GRAMS. :) NO PROBLEM

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